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 Abt 1464 - 1552 (~ 88 years)
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| Name |
Thomas A’DENNE |
| Suffix |
the elder, Esq |
| Born |
Abt 1464 |
of Denne Hill, Kingston, Kent, England  |
| Gender |
Male |
| Died |
1552 |
Barham, Kent, England |
| Person ID |
I12094 |
Young Kent Ancestors |
| Last Modified |
4 Mar 2022 |
| Family 1 |
Unknown |
| Married |
Abt 1495 |
| Notes |
- This marriage appears in a privately produced paper titled Denne of Denne Hill, completed July 2010.
Sources cited as having been used for Denne of Denne Hill
John Burke, A Genealogical and Heraldic History of the Commoners of Great Britain and Ireland, London, 1838 vol III pp. 19-21 and Dictionary of the Landed Gentry of Great Britain and Ireland, 1847
William Berry, County Genealogies, Pedigrees of the families in te County of Kent, London: Sherwood, Gilbert, and Piper, 1830, pp. 194-5.
The Visitation of Kent taken in the years 1619-21, R. Hovenden (ed.), Harleian Soc., vol. 42, 1898.
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| Children |
| | 1. Christopher A’DENNE, b. Bef 1508, Barham, Kent, England |
| | 2. Michael A’DENNE, b. Abt 1511, Barham, Kent, England |
| | 3. Agnes A’DENNE, b. Abt 1517, Barham, Kent, England , bur. 28 Mar 1588, Adisham, Kent, England (Age ~ 71 years) |
| | 4. David A’DENNE, b. Abt 1530, Barham, Kent, England , d. 16 Jul 1585, Littlebourne, Kent, England (Age ~ 55 years) |
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| Last Modified |
20 Mar 2022 |
| Family ID |
F3583 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |
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| Notes |
- http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/2fe46375-6d16-4dc4-9da5-7db5627d26f6
Lease
This record is held by Canterbury Cathedral Archives and Library
See contact details
Reference: CCA-DCc-ChAnt/L/394A
Title: Lease
Description:
From: William Sellyng, I, prior of Canterbury Cathedral Priory; the convent of Canterbury Cathedral Priory To: John Graunt of Sandwich; Thomas A Denne of Barham; John Assherst of Chart The manor of Lydcourt [alias Lydden, in Worth, Kent], with livestock as specified. Reserving certain rights and dues. For a term of 15 years. For an annual payment of £36 13s 4d, payable as specified. Conditions on repairs, including repairs to the sea walls, and other conditions. Details of livery. Right of distraint and re-entry if payment in arrears. The lessees have made a bond in £80to observe the terms of the lease. Priory's part of indenture. Endorsed 'Lydcourt' in 16th cent hand.
Date: 7 Dec 1486
Held by: Canterbury Cathedral Archives and Library, not available at The National Archives
Former reference in its original department: CCA-DCc-ChAnt/L/394A
Language: English
Physical description: 1 document
Physical condition: Parchment, 1m, indented at top, 3 seal tags, all with traces of red wax, dirty, creased
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1484
CP 25/1/117/342, number 26.
Link: Image of document at AALT
County: Kent.
Place: Westminster.
Date: The day after St Martin, 2 Richard III [12 November 1484].
Parties: Thomas Denne and Michael Denne, querents, and William Clitherowe, citizen and grocer of London', and Margaret, his wife, deforciants.
Property: 54 acres of land in the parish of Westhithe in the marsh of Romeney.
Action: Plea of covenant.
Agreement: William and Margaret have acknowledged the land to be the right of Thomas, and have remised and quitclaimed it from themselves and the heirs of Margaret to Thomas and Michael and the heirs of Thomas for ever.
Warranty: Warranty.
For this: Thomas and Michael have given them 40 marks of silver.
Standardised forms of names. (These are tentative suggestions, intended only as a finding aid.)
Persons: Thomas Denn, Michael Denn, William Clitheroe, Margaret Clitheroe
Places: London, West Hythe, Romney
1486
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CCA-DCc - DEAN AND CHAPTER
ChAnt - Chartae Antiquae
L - Chartae Antiquae L
Title Lease
Order Number CCA-DCc/ChAnt/L/394A
Date 7 Dec 1486
Description From: William Sellyng, I, prior of Canterbury Cathedral Priory; the convent of Canterbury Cathedral Priory
To: John Graunt of Sandwich; Thomas A Denne of Barham; John Assherst of Chart
The manor of Lydcourt [alias Lydden, in Worth, Kent], with livestock as specified. Reserving certain rights and dues. For a term of 15 years. For an annual payment of £36 13s 4d, payable as specified. Conditions on repairs, including repairs to the sea walls, and other conditions. Details of livery. Right of distraint and re-entry if payment in arrears. The lessees have made a bond in £80to observe the terms of the lease. Priory's part of indenture.
Endorsed 'Lydcourt' in 16th cent hand.
Extent 1 doc
Physical Description Parchment, 1m, indented at top, 3 seal tags, all with traces of red wax, dirty, creased
Language Latin
AccessStatus Open
Open
1489
CP 25/1/117A/344, number 71.
Link: Image of document at AALT
County: Kent.
Place: Westminster.
Date: Two weeks from St Martin, 5 Henry VII [25 November 1489]. And afterwards one week from St Hilary in the same year [20 January 1490].
Parties: John Fyneux', William Boys, Michael Denne, Thomas Denne and Thomas Nethersole, querents, and Robert Austyn' and Joan, his wife, deforciants.
Property: 2 messuages, 120 acres of land and 3 acres of wood in Nunnyngton'.
Action: Plea of covenant.
Agreement: Robert and Joan have acknowledged the tenements to be the right of Thomas Nethersole, as those which the same Thomas, John, William, Michael and Thomas Denne have of their gift, and have remised and quitclaimed them from themselves and the heirs of Joan to John, William, Michael, Thomas and Thomas and the heirs of Thomas Nethersole for ever.
Warranty: Warranty.
For this: John, William, Michael, Thomas and Thomas have given them 30 pounds sterling.
Standardised forms of names. (These are tentative suggestions, intended only as a finding aid.)
Persons: John Fineux, William Boys, Michael Denn, Thomas Denn, Thomas Nethersole, Robert Austin, Joan Austin
Places: Nonington
1508
Archaeologia Cantiana, v25-p263-264
DOCUMENTS BELONGING TO...... op cit. 17. [4.] 125B.—1508. Grant by William Lauraunce of the
parish of Berham to William Cullyng of the same parish, Thomas
Denne, John Gate, and Thomas Rolf of seven acres of land lying at
Southberham at Colysse between the lands of Robert Marsh towards
the east, of William Cullyng south and west, and the common road
towards the north, etc., which Richard Laurence his father, Thomas
Petite, and William Audele conjointly held by ffeoffment of William
Browne of Berham, deceased. Dated at Berham 23 September,
24 Henry VII. [Seal attached.]
Witnesses : John Neve, Senr
', Thomas ffirner, Nicholas Vytell,
John Weste, John Neve, Junr
#18. [5.] 125c.— 1508. Letter of attorney from William
Laurence to Thomas Weldiche, to deliver the said seven acres of
land at Southbarham, at Colysse, etc., to William Culling, etc. (as
in the preceding Grant). Dated 23 September, 24 Henry VII.
[Seal attached.]
1527
Archaeologia Cantiana, 1902, vol. p. 264
#20 [6] 154B-1527 Grant by Thomas Beolo [Beale], gentleman, to Thomas Culling of the parish of Barham, Thomas a Denne, Thomas Ladde, William Nasshe of Berham and William a Denne of Kingston, of one croft and two acres of land in Barham, the said croft containing by estimation seven acres and a half lying next the lands of John Brooke east and south, Thomas Beole west, and James Mershe north; the said two acres of Thomas Beole south, William Cullyng west and north, and the King's highway east. 5 October 19 Henry VIII [1527] [seal attached]
this document establishes my Thomas at Barham as early as 1527. The reference to William a Denne of Kingston would lead me to think that that William was a brother, uncle or father of my Thomas. It might be worth investigating any Wills left of Thomas Ladde, William Nasshe both of Barham and William a Denne of Kingston. It might also be worth looking into a Will for Thomas Beale. Other feets of fines place Thomas and William a Denne in Barham as early as 1509.
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Possible William Nashe
Will Nasshe William Barham 1547 1547 PRC/17/25/177 1547
In his Will, this Thomas a'Den is described as being "the elder of the parish of Barham".
From his Will, I would suggest that Margaret Naishe is not his first wife and may not be the mother of the children Christopher, Michael and David. No mention is made of Agnes in his Will but there is mention of Richard Austen and Edith Austen but no relationship is stated to the Testator.
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Feet of Fines 1509 - no harnett
1 Hen VIII CP25(2) 19/102
Michaelmas Term
#23 Thomas Frode and wife Alice, John Godyn and wife Joan, William Moket and wife Margaret
to Thomas a Denne, John Bone and Ingram Jenkyn Messuage 60 aces land, 60 acres pastue and 2 acres wood in Folkestone, Barham and Capel le Ferne. 40 marcs.
2 Hen VIII CP25(2) 19/103 [1510]
Michaelmas Term
#55 John Crips and wife Avice
to Thomas Denne, James Dyggys, esq. Thomas Roulfe and William Denne.
Moiety of messuage, 100 acres land, 4 acres mead, 40 aces pastue and 40 acres wood in Kingston, Upper Hardres, Barham, Selling and Bourn = Bishopsbourne? GB40 (21)
7 Hen VIII CP25(2) 19/108 [1515]
Michaelmas Term
#257 John Cryps and wife Avice to Thomas a Denne, Vincent Broke, John a Denne and Thomas a Gate. Moiety of messuage, 100 acres land, 4 acres mead, 40 acres past and 40 acres wood in Kingston, Barham, Upper Hardres, Selling and Bishopsboune GB40 (27)
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Denne (Denne Hill, Kingston, Elbridge, Bishopsbourne, and Lydd, co. Kent, and Winchilsea, co. Sussex). Azure three bars ermine in chief as many fleur-de-lis or." (Sir Bernard Burke: The General Armory, London 1884, page 278)
Slater describes the crest as being. "on a chapeau vert, turned up ermine a demi Peacock, wings expanded and elevated pp."
"This crest was also granted in 1589 but has not been used from time immemorial."
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Denne of Lydd
The Arms of Denne of Lydd pictured here taken from Frederick Slater's manuscript (1880) and are described by him as follows:
"Quarterly 1st and 4th Three bars ermine in chief, as many fleur de lis, or. Coat granted to Thomas Denne Esq 1580. 2nd and 3rd Azure three leopards heads, couped, or."
The Denne of Lydd branch
is descended from
Thomas Denne of Addisham.
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DENNE, Thomas (1577-1656), of St Alphege, Canterbury, Kent and the Inner Temple, London; later of Denne Hill, Kingston, Kent
Published in The History of Parliament: the House of Commons 1604-1629, ed. Andrew Thrush and John P. Ferris, 2010
Available from Cambridge University Press
Family and Education
bap. 1 Sept. 1577, 1st s. of Robert Denne, yeoman of Denne Hill and Thomasine, da. of Thomas Dane of St. John’s, Thanet, Kent. educ. King’s sch. Canterbury 1589; I. Temple 1598, called 1607. m. by Oct. 1611, Dorothy (bur. 21 Aug. 1637), da. of John Tanfield of Copfold Hall, Margaretting, Essex, 2s. (1 d.v.p.) 5da. 1 other ch. d.v.p. suc. fa. 1594. bur. 1 Aug. 1656.1
Offices Held
Dep. reader, Clifford’s Inn 1609, reader, Lyon’s Inn 1614, Clifford’s Inn 1616,[ I]. Temple 1628;[2] fee’d counsel, Canterbury 1617-at least 1636, recorder 1643-55;[3] steward, reader’s dinner, I. Temple 1623, bencher 1626-d., reader’s attendant 1627, auditor 1628-9, 1631-2, 1638-9.[4]
Freeman, Canterbury 1617,[5] common councilman to 11 Mar. 1656;[6] commr. oyer and terminer, Canterbury 1622,[7] subsidy 1624;[8] j.p. Kent 1630-d.;[9] commr. repair of highways, Kent 1631,[10] charitable uses 1633,[11] assessment (chairman), Canterbury 1643-5, 1647-53.[12]
Biography
Denne’s earliest known ancestor held lands in east Kent under John, and his son, Sir Alured, was seneschal of Christchurch Priory, Canterbury and escheator for Kent in 1234.[13] Denne himself was born to a prosperous yeoman at Denne Hill in the parish of Kingston, five miles south-east of Canterbury. In the family’s possession from at least the mid-thirteenth century, Denne Hill lay at the heart of a modest estate that was expanded under Elizabeth to include purchases in neighbouring Barham and the Isle of Thanet. Following his father’s death in 1594, Denne, the eldest of five sons, should have inherited the Kingston-Barham estate, but it was conferred on his brother John instead. Moreover, the bulk of the Thanet property was divided between two other brothers, Vincent and Edward. The few lands specifically allocated to Denne were expressly withheld during the lifetime of his mother, who used them to amass more than £2,000 in rents in just 12 years. However, some property, unmentioned in the will, must have passed automatically to Denne, for in about 1606 he conferred lands on John worth £200 a year, plus £400 in cash. The condition of this gift was that John would leave Denne his entire estate if he died childless.[14]
Shortly after attaining his majority, Denne underwent a legal training at the Inner Temple, culminating in his admission to the bar in June 1607. He may have received encouragement from another Thomas Denne, New Romney’s standing counsel and perhaps a kinsman.[15] By 1612 he was living in Canterbury,[16] where from 1617 he was retained as counsel by the corporation following John Finch II’s* elevation to the recordership. For much of the 1620s Denne helped defend Canterbury’s charter at Westminster.[17] However, his election to Parliament for the city in 1624 was contrary to the wishes of his employers. He and his fellow Canterbury resident, the self-styled puritan Thomas Scott*, persuaded each other to stand to prevent the return of the duke of Lennox’s secretary John Latham, whom Scott ‘much suspected for his religion’ and whose candidacy was supported by the city’s aldermen.[18] On the strength of this evidence, Denne has been described by one historian as ‘a puritan lawyer’.[19]
Denne played little recorded part in the 1624 Parliament. On 25 Mar. he was nominated to the bill committee for the repeal and continuance of expiring statutes, and on 22 Apr. he reported a naturalization bill for the Norwich grain merchant Peter Verbeake.[20] While at Westminster, Denne’s brother John secretly drafted his will. Instead of settling his entire estate on Denne, as agreed, John divided up the property he had bought with Denne’s money between his brother Vincent, Denne’s youngest son Thomas, and a clerk named James Benchkin. For some while after John’s death in February 1625, Denne remained ignorant of the will’s existence, so that on taking action against the Benchkins in 1626 he assumed that John had died intestate.[21] On discovering the truth, Denne decided not to pursue Vincent, for as Vincent was unmarried it was possible he would inherit his entire estate anyway. However, he seized control of John’s lands and obtained permission to administer his goods and cash, for which he was hounded by the administrators of John’s widow, Elizabeth, who had died within hours of her husband. Indeed, over the next 16 years he fought a fierce rearguard action in several ecclesiastical courts as well as King’s Bench, Common Pleas, the Privy Council (where Denne was severely criticized) and, in 1641, the House of Lords.[22]
Denne’s decision not to pursue Vincent through the courts may have been misguided. Shortly before their mother died in February 1634, Vincent allegedly persuaded her to leave most of her property to him, including the share of the Thanet estate reserved for Denne in their father’s will. In this way Vincent compensated himself for his impending loss of Denne Hill, which at long last passed to Denne. Vincent’s final act of spite was to settle most of his estate on Denne’s youngest son, Thomas, two months before his death in June 1642, leaving Denne only a single cottage and plot of land in Kingston, worth just £35.[23] Vincent’s will consequently set Denne and his eldest son John against Thomas, who was banished from his father’s presence.[24] Thomas and Henry Oxinden of Barham (Vincent’s executor) were prosecuted, first in the Court of Wards and, after that court’s abolition in 1646, in Chancery. The quarrel proved so bitter that Denne even attempted to recover the cost of his son’s education, while Thomas accused John of having secretly poisoned Denne against him.[25] Denne argued that he needed Vincent’s estate, having five daughters and ‘not means sufficient to raise convenient portions for them’, whereupon Thomas retorted that his father was ‘esteemed a man of £800 per annum or thereabouts and to have divers thousand pounds in his purse, besides his yearly gainings by his p[ro]fession as a counsellor at law’. Denne never forgave Thomas, even after John’s death in 1648, for in 1655 he settled his whole estate on his daughter Mary and her husband, Vincent Denne† of Gray’s Inn.[26]
During the First Civil War, Denne became recorder of Canterbury and chairman of the city’s ‘county’ committee. The assertion that he was a republican seems to be unfounded.[27] Increasing infirmity probably explains his replacement as recorder in 1655 and why, early in 1656, he sought and was granted permission to resign from Canterbury’s Common Council.[28] ‘Weak of body’, he drew up a short will on 7 July 1656, in which he asked to be buried at Kingston, ‘where my late wife and ancestors were interred’, and appointing his daughter Mary and her husband as his executors.[29] He died a few weeks later at his house in Canterbury, and was buried at Kingston on 1 August. His son-in-law Vincent represented Canterbury in Parliament that same year, and again in 1681.
Ref Volumes: 1604-1629
Author: Andrew Thrush
Notes
1. W. Berry, Kentish Genealogies, 194-6; Vis. Kent (Harl. Soc. xlii), 99-100; Vis. Essex (Harl. Soc. xiii), 295-6; Lists of Scholars of King’s Sch. Canterbury comp. W. Urry et al.; I. Temple Admiss.; Regs. St. Giles in Kingston, Kent ed. C. Hales Wilkie, 9, 130, 131; Regs. St. Alphaege, Canterbury ed. J.M. Cowper, 15-18, 20, 208.
2.Readings and Moots at the Inns of Ct. II ed. S.L. Thorne and J.H. Baker (Selden Soc. cv), cvi; J.H. Baker and J.S. Ringrose, Cat. of English Legal Mss in CUL, 424; CITR, 164.
3. Canterbury Cathedral Archives, CC/FA/22(1), f. 344; FA/24, f. 293; FA/25, f. 195v; FA/26, ff. 244, 301.
4.CITR, 139, 155, 161, 170, 191, 231, 244.
5.Roll of Freemen of City of Canterbury comp. J.M. Cowper, 315.
6. Canterbury Cathedral Archives, CC/AC/4, f. 399v.
7. C181/3, f. 70.
8. C212/22/23.
9. C231/5, f. 38; Cent. Kent. Stud. Q/JC/6, 7.
10. C181/4, f. 88v.
11. C192/1, unfol.
12.A. and O. i. 336, 451, 541, 620, 640, 968; ii. 36, 301, 469, 666; SP28/252, items ‘B’ and ‘C’, passim; A.M. Everitt, Community of Kent and Gt. Rebellion, 177.
13. Berry, 194.
14. C2/Chas.I/D18/65; Cent. Kent. Stud. PRC 17/49, ff. 59v-62v.
15. For this man, see LI Black Bks. i. 457; Cent. Kent. Stud. NR/AC1, ff. 68, 81v-2, 166, 192, 201v; Cal. of White and Black Bks. of Cinque Ports ed. F. Hull (Kent Recs. xix), 309, 343; C181/1, f. 28v.
16.Regs. St. Alphaege, 15.
17. Canterbury Cathedral Archives, CC/FA/23, ff. 150r-v, 200v, 203v, 247v, 337v, 387v.
18. Canterbury Cathedral Archives, U66, f. 25v.
19. P. Clark, ‘Thomas Scott and the growth of urban opposition to the early Stuart regime’, HJ, xxi. 12.
20.CJ, i. 750b, name spelt ‘Deane’; ‘Hawarde 1624’, p. 251.
21. C2/Chas.I/D50/61; 2/Chas.I/B124/62.
22. For the details, see CSP Dom. 1634-5, p. 101; 1640-1, pp. 281-2; PC2/44, pp. 203-4; 45, p. 214; HMC 4th Rep. 36, 83, 86.
23. C2/Chas.I/D18/65; Cent. Kent. Stud. PRC 17/69, ff. 467-8.
24. Add. 28000, f. 343.
25. Ibid. ff. 225v, 342r-v; C2/Chas.I/D18/65; D14/51.
26. Cent. Kent. Stud. U36/T678.
27. Everitt, 226n.
28. Canterbury Cathedral Archives, CC/AC/4, f. 399r-v.
29. PROB 11/261, f. 94r-v.
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Denne Hill, Kent
Description
Denne Hill, a seat adjacent to the Dover railway, 7 1/2 miles SE of Canterbury, in Kent. It belonged for about six centuries to the Dennes, and passed to the Montresors. Traces of very extensive entrenchments are on the grounds, and were long supposed by antiquaries to be indications of the line of Caesar's march from Deal. It is now a modern residence belonging to the Dyson family.
Transcribed from The Comprehensive Gazetteer of England and Wales, 1894-5
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5 bedroom detached house for sale
Denne Manor Lane, Shottenden, Canterbury, Kent
GB1,500,000.
Hall | Drawing room | Sitting room | Kitchen/breakfast room/family room | Utility room | Cloakroom | Cellar | Master bedroom with en suite bathroom | 5 Further bedroom (1 with en suite shower room) | Family bathroom|Outbuildings & garaging
A wide panelled front door leads into a welcoming hall, with oak flooring and superb custom-built oak staircase leading to the first floor - both the main reception rooms lead from here. To the left is an elegant, formal, double aspect drawing room, with a wide stone fireplace, excellent ceiling heights and exposed ceiling timbers. The sitting room to the right has equally high ceilings, double aspect, a brick inglenook fireplace with fitted wood burner and shelved cupboard to one side. In the hall a trap door leads to the ample cellar. From the sitting room and the hall there is access into the wonderful kitchen/breakfast room cum living area. It has York stone flooring, hand-built kitchen by Throughly Wood, tiled inglenook fireplace housing a three-oven AGA and a fitted Neff hob and cooker, and double doors open onto the terrace. Adjacent is the utility room, which has plenty of storage space, and a door opens to a downstairs WC.
Stairs rise to the first floor. The master bedroom is to the left - a wonderful double aspect room with oak floors, and en suite bathroom with French style bathtub, large overhead shower and wash basin. A passageway leads to a family bathroom and bedroom 3, which has an exposed chimneybreast dividing the sitting room/bedroom 4. Bedroom 2 sits to the front and has an en suite shower room. A winding oak staircase leads to the second floor where there two further bedrooms, one with an en suite cloakroom - both are full height and have exposed ceiling timbers.
Denne Manor is located in a delightful rural location approximately 2½ miles from the village of Chilham, which provides local amenities including a post office, primary school and public houses. The Cathedral City of Canterbury (about 9 miles) offers a comprehensive range of educational, leisure and shopping facilities. Schooling is well catered for in both the state and private sectors.
There are excellent road and rail communications in the area with the A2/M2 (4 miles) and the M20 can be joined at Ashford.
Trains from Faversham to London Victoria take approximately 70 minutes. Ashford International station (9 miles) offers regular services to the continent via the Eurostar, and in December 2009 the new High Speed Rail Link will take approximately 37 minutes to St Pancras. The Channel Tunnel terminal at Folkestone (24 miles) offers shuttle services to the continent
The main garden has been beautifully planted and sympathetically landscaped to provide a wonderful setting for the house. Immediately adjoining the house is a gravel and brick terrace with steps leading through the shrubbery to the swimming pool garden, which is fully enclosed with fence and surrounded by a variety of roses, shrubs and other ornamental climbers. The planting scheme is created in lovely pastel colours of creams, blues and whites and a central rose arbour. Opposite the house is a garage block with an office at one end.
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Denne references in KAS journals
arms 4, 258; 10, 330;
Alice 9, 289; 20, 26;
Amfrid de (1200) 2, 252
Sir Anered de (1252) 2, 311
Nicholas de (1254) 3, 243
Ralph de (1198) 1, 268; 22, 255; 21, 221
Robert 21, 320, 321; 25, 269, 271
Thomas de (1196) 1, 233-4;
10th May 1196, 7 Ric. I. Thomas de Dene and Harlewin his brother (in a plea under a writ of right) quitclaim to Thomas de Godwinestone [i.e. Goodnestone, or Gunston[ one soling and a half of land in East Ratling, for which he gives them six marks, and eighteen acres and a quarter in a field called Uikham *(to be hald of said Thomas de Godwinestone by fourpence per annum) and six marks sterling.
Cordia facta, in Curia domini Regis apud Westmonasterium
1 Solinga, a Solin, a measure of land peculiar to Kent. In Doomsday we have, "In communi terra Sancti Martini sunt cccc acre et dim., quae fiunt duos solinos et dimid." Agard considers that dim. refers to "hundred," and not to "acre," which makes the passage tantamount to "450 acres being equal to two and a-half Solins;" thus the Solin would be 180 acres, but he considers it to be, "after English account," 216 acres, and "after Norman tale," 180 acres.
2 Uikham? We have represented the three minims with which the word commences, by Ui.
die Jovis proxima post Inventionem Sancte Crucis, anno regni Regis Ricardi vij°.
Coram H. Cantuariensi Archiepiscopo, . . . . et G. Roffensi, Episcopis, H. Cantuariensi, et R. Herefordensi, et E. Elyensi Archidiaconis, Comite Rogero Bigot, G. filio Petri, Osberto filio Hervei, Willelmo . . . . . . Heriet, Simoiie de Patishull, Thoma de Huseboume, et aliis Baronibus et fidelibus domini Regis ibidem tune presentibus.
Inter THOMAM DE DENE et HARLEWINUM . . . . petentes, et THOMAM DE GODWINESTONE, tenentem.
De una sollinga1 terre et dimidia, cum pertinenciis, m ESTRETLING.
Unde placitum fait inter eos . . . . domini Regis., per breve de recto, quod predicti THOMAS et HERLEWINUS quietum clamaverunt in perpetuum, de se et heredibus suis, totum jus, et clamium suum quod clamaverunt, in predicta terra, cum pertinentiis, in ESTRETLING, predicto Thome et heredibus suis.
Et pro hac quieta clamancia, fine, et concordia, dedit predictus THOMAS DE GODWINESTONE predictis . . . . fratri ejns, xviij acras terre, et unam virgatam, cum pertinenciis, in campo qui appellatur UIKHAM,2 tenendas in perpetuum ipsis et
heredibus suis de . . . . THOMA DE GODWINESTON, et heredibus suis, solvendo per annum iiijd, pro . . . . servicio, in festo Sancti Michaelis. Et preterea, idem THOMAS DE GODWINESTONE . . . . predictis THOME et HAELEWINO fratri ejus, vi marcas sterlingorum.
20, 18; 25, 207, 263, 264, 272, 275, 278, 281, 282, 287
Sir Thomas 30, 68
(1220) 2, 227
(1252) 2, 310;
Thomas de 10, 137, 142, 159; 15, 29
Walter de 12, 230;
@m de 2, 307; 3, 100; 4, 208
Michael (1465) 10, 255
Thomas (1465) 10, 255 received pay by john Boteller for Michael and Thomas in part of payment the 13 day of Feb the 5th year of King Edward 37 li, 6s 8d
Item of Michell and Thomas Denne be a Bocher of London 4s 4d
Thomas 12, 415; 14, 177; 18, 417
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Denne, Christopher of Staplehurst, yeoman and Margaret Burden of Boughton Monchelsea, widow. At Staplehurst. July 2, 1614.
Denne, David of Littlebourne and Margery Parker of Ickham widow. At Ickham, Littlebourne or Wickham. Sep 30 1568
Denne, John, of Littlebourne, yeoman and Martha Vidian of St. Mildred's Canterbury, widow. At St. Mildred's Feb 5, 1613.
Denn, Michael of Littlebourne, yeoman and Alice Nethersole of Ickham, virgin. At Littlebourne, Jan. 28, 1614
Bankes, William of Littlebourne, and Margery Den, sp virgin. At St. Margaret's Canterbury. Dec 31, 1606
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Hi Matt,
Likewise, a quick reply from me. We’ve just come off of the long civic holiday ( equivalent of August Bank Holiday) weekend during which I was hoping to have the emails transferred over the laptop to the new PC. No such luck thanks to various disruptions!
So, I am not entirely certain to which Austen Wills you are referring.
The LDS is making great strides in uploading the Wills from the Archdeaconry Court and the Consistory Court. So, I, too, have been able to grab a few more Wills over the past month or so. But, again, I have to sort out what’s what and where I’ve got it all stored.
However, there is one major research goal that I have managed to accomplish and that is the reason I am writing to you at this moment in time.
I have unequivocal proof that Thomas DENNE who married Margaret NAISSHE is NOT the Thomas DENNE who married Alice ESHEHURST!
I now have that Thomas DENNE’s Will and it is and does contain all the proof that is required to forever disassociate our Thomas DENNE as being the one and the same as that Thomas DENNE.
I will send more later. I will try for tonight but it may be tomorrow.
I wanted to let you know this “breaking news” as I will be publishing the details on RootsChat as well as on my own professional research website AncestrySolutions.com in the “Errors Identified in Published Genealogies” section (http://ancestrysolutions.com/referencecentre/planning/Overturned.htm ).
So, even though now I know that our Thomas DENNE was NOT the fellow who married Alice ESCHEHURST, it follows that he was NOT THE SON OF Michael A‘DENNE and Christianna COOMBE. Also, he was NOT THE GRANDSON of John A’DENNE and Alice ARDERNE. The Will of this last mentioned John A’DENNE mentions only his two sons, Michael and Thomas and Thomas’ daughters. Visitations further confirm that this last mentioned Thomas (son of John) had only one daughter, Avis. This takes the lineage back to Thomas A’DENNE who married Isabel DE EARDE. He, too, can be ruled out as being a direct ancestor our Thomas DENNE who married Margaret NAISSHE. The College of Arms mentions only two sons 1. John whom we’ve just visited; and another Thomas. However, this last mentioned died without issue.
This takes the potential lineage for our Thomas A’DENNE (2nd husband of Margaret NAISSHE) back to Richard A’DENNE and Agnes De APULDREFELD. It is at this level that we have a real chance of making a solid connection. Richard and Agnes had four sons: Thomas (whom we’ve already ruled out); Michael, of whom nothing is known; John; and, Richard also of whom nothing is known.
I believe John, immediately above, married a woman named Eleanor SHAKEWEY. Even if it is not this John, then it is a John that is much more closely related to our Thomas than the Coombe-Arderne-deEarde female line is. The younger children of Richard A’DENNE and Agnes De APULDREFELD appear to have settled in Barham (the place where our Thomas A’DENNE resided) (College of Arms information).
I have also found a quadripartite Indenture dated 21 Henry VI. [1442/3] whereby Michael Shakewey of Berham enfeoffees his lands in Berham, Kyngeston, Stellyng, Orgoryswyke and Seintemaricherche for the benefit of his wife, Parnel and his two daughters Isabel Cherche and Eleanor DENNE wife of John DENNE and their son Richard DENNE. Specifically, the DENNES were to receive “in the parish of Berham in places called "Southberham" and "Southderyngeston,"”.
So, what we would have is a lineage that would like something like this:
Thomas DENNE and [wife unknown] who marries 2nd Margaret Naisshe widow
-To Unknown Male DENNE [A’DENNE born circa 1445 and most likely a son of Richard] and [wife unknown][marr circa 1475]
-To Richard A’DENNE(born circa 1420) and [wife unknown]
-To John A’DENNE and Eleanor SHAKEWEY
-To Richard A’DENNE and Agnes DE APULDREFELD
-To Sir William A’DENNE and Elizabeth DE GATTON
-And following the lineage backwards as already known
That’s all for now. I’m sure you’ll have lots of questions and I have quite a few answers.
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- [S78] Will, Archdeaconry Court of Canterbury, Archdeaconry Court of Canterbury, Canterbury Cathedral Archives, (U.S.A., Salt Lake City: Genealogical Society of Utah), Vol.28 folio 25, 1552.
Source: Archdeaconry Court of Canterbury Vol.28 folio 25
Transcribed by Brian Denn
In the name of God Amen the 3rd day of May in the year of our Lord God one thousand five hundred and fifty three and in the sixth year of the Reign of our Sovereign Lord Edward the Sixth by the grace of God King of England France and Ireland Defender of the Faith and of the Church of England and also of Ireland in earth the supreme head I Thomas A’Den the elder of the Parish of Barham being whole of mind and in good remembrance thanked be God make and ordain this my present testament and last will in manner and form following that is to say. First I bequeath my Soul to Almighty God and my body to be buried in the church yard of the parish aforesaid.
Item I will to the poor mens box of the said parish 6s 8d.
Item I will to 40 poor households within the hundred of Kinghamford 40s to be paid within one year after my death.
Item I will to Margaret my wife all those parcels that the said Margaret brought to me at the day of our marriage which parcels be written in the inventory of William Naishe except and ? ? of the said parcels ? ? Chappell thereunto belonging the podware(?) and the price thereof all the barley and malt 3 calves 3 ? 2 working bullocks William Naishe’s apparel and his purse and money.
Item I will to my said wife 40 parts of barley and malt and 2 quarters of wheat ? measure.
Item I will unto her all my crop on the ground within Barham and two acres of wheat at Elding(?) in the piece next to Petwoods(?) to take it at whether end she will north and south and 2 acres of oats growing on the Newlands.
Item I will to my said wife a grey mare called Mouse
I will also that Margaret my wife shall have the ten acres and my yards of arable land which I late bought ? her occupying for the space of 2 years next after my decease paying no ? to my Executors for the said lands but the lords rent.
Item I give to my said wife one ? 3 lyeware(?) and other 3 young lyeware(?) 4 fifths of ? and all my poultry.
Item I will that my Executors shall deliver all the bequeaths and legacies that Richard Naishe John Naishe and the two children of Margaret Wraith had to them bequeathed by the last will of William Naishe and not as yet paid or delivered to Margaret my wife or to her assigns within one year after my death.
Item I will all give to Edith Austen one ewe and two lambs.
Item I will to every of the residue of the children of Richard Austen 2 ewe lambs to be delivered at weaning time next after my death if any of them ? the one to be the others heirs.
Item I will to either of the children of Christopher A’Den my son that then shall be alive one ewe and a lamb to be delivered at weaning time next after my death.
Item I give to Michael A’Den my son one acre of wheat one acre of barley and one acre of tares(?) at Elding.
Item I give to David my son all my crop growing at Elding except before given.
Item I will to the said David my son my weane(?) the ox cart and two of the best oxen with their apparel and a horse cote with 4 of the best horses and 4 kine of mine own mark six score wethers 40 cows and 40 lambs to be delivered immediately after my death.
Item I will to Michael my son my cart and 2 mares with their apparel and 2 working bullocks fifty wethers and 80 ewes to be delivered immediately after my death.
Item I will to Christopher A’Den my son fifty wethers and fifty ewes upon condition that the said Christopher shall first discharge my Executors of all such debts as I have promised to pay to the said Christopher.
And as touching my lands first I give and grant to Margaret my wife 2 acres of ? lying at a ? place called ? in fee simple which I lately purchased upon a condition following that is to say that the said Margaret her heirs executors or assigns shall yearly for ever pay to the Lord ? 2 eggs half a bushel of barley out of the said land.
Item I give and grant to David my son all my lands and tenements lying and being in Barham in fee simple.
Item I give and grant to Michael my son in fee simple all my lands and tenements lying and being in the Parishes of Lyminge and Elmsted with all the moveables in and upon the same except two trees that lies in the field which trees David shall have.
Item I will to my son Michael 3 platters, 3 pewter dishes and two candlesticks a little kettle and the ? of my feather beds one blanket one pair of sheets and two silver spoons.
The residue of my household not given I will and give to David my son.
The residue of all my goods not bequeathed I give to Michael and David my sons my debts and legacies fully contented and paid whom I make and ordain my Executors of this my present testament and last will and I make my overseers of this my will and testament Richard Austen and John Derant(?) and they to have for their pains either of them 20s.
Item I will that if any of my said sons be not content with this my will and testament that the same shall be void of the bequests benefits of the same will and his legacies to be divided to the other or if any variance shall chance among my sons for any thing in this my will and testament he or they that will not abide the order of my overseers shall have no part of the thing that they ? for Witnesses hereof.
Richard Austen, Henry ?, John Austen and John Bland, Parson of Adisham.
Probatum 1552
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