John IDDENDEN AKA ELLENDEN

John IDDENDEN AKA ELLENDEN[1]

Male Abt 1630 - 1681  (~ 51 years)

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  • Name John IDDENDEN AKA ELLENDEN 
    Born Abt 1630 
    Gender Male 
    Died 11 May 1681  Whitstable, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [2
    Person ID I16088  Young Kent Ancestors
    Last Modified 27 Mar 2021 

    Family 1 Sibbella ROE,   bur. 28 Nov 1671, Whitstable, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Married 30 Sep 1654  Saint Mary Bredin, Canterbury, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Children 
     1. Elizabeth IDDENDEN,   c. 4 May 1654, Whitstable, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     2. Elizabeth? IDDENDEN,   c. 5 May 1655, Whitstable, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     3. Mary IDDENDEN,   c. 2 Feb 1658, Whitstable, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     4. Jane IDDENDEN,   c. 29 Apr 1660, Whitstable, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     5. Edward IDDENDEN,   c. 10 Sep 1662, Whitstable, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location
     6. Sibill IDDENDEN
     7. Elias IDDENDEN
     8. John IDDENDEN
     9. Suzanne IDDENDEN
    Last Modified 20 Mar 2022 
    Family ID F4911  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

    Family 2 Alice JARMAN AKA ABBOTT,   b. Abt 1658 
    Married 21 May 1680  Whitstable, Kent, England Find all individuals with events at this location  [3
    Last Modified 20 Mar 2022 
    Family ID F4916  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

  • Notes 
    • Possible first marriage and parents of my Jane
      Iddenden John Dawes Hannah m 17 Jul 1636 Cby, St. Paul PR


      Possible baptism:
      Name: John Ellenden
      Residence Place: Kent, England
      Gender: Male
      Christening Date: 27 May 1621
      Christening Date (Original): 27 May 1621
      Christening Place: Seasalter, Kent, England (Church Records)
      Father's Name: Richard Ellenden

      OR

      Name: John Ellenden
      Gender: Male
      Burial Date: 09 Feb 1623
      Burial Place: Whitstable, Kent, England
      Father's Name: Richard Ellenden

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      Name: Joane Illenden
      Gender: Female
      Christening Date: 05 Sep 1630
      Christening Date (Original): 05 SEP 1630
      Christening Place: Whitstable, Kent, England
      Father's Name: Richard Illenden

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      Resolve which John Iddenden this is:
      Iddenden, John of Whitstable, bachelor, 20, and Ann Knowler of Swalecliffe, spinster, about fifteen. At Swalecliffe or Whitstable. Thomas Knowler of Swalecliffe, gent, and John Knowler of Canterbury, gent, bondsmen. Sept 1, 1685.
      Fourth Series, col. 313

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      the ohio cultivator
      By M.B. Bateham and S.D. Harris
      p. 286, Vol. VIII
      Copperas in Mineral Coal - Its Effects on Rain Water

      Copperas apparently an iron substance released when burning stone coal. I have not copied out the letter written by a Fr. Dana Gage from Mount Airy, August 6, 1852.

      REMARKS. - Mrs. Gage is doubtless correct in her suppostion, that Copperas (sulphate of iron) exists in combination with mineral coal, after exposure to air and moisture; but we do not understand how it can affect the rain water, as we should expect that in buring the coal the heat would decompose the sulphate of iron, leaving the iron in the ashes, and liberating the sulphur in the form of gas. But we may be mistaken, and should be glad to receive an explanation and remedy from some one more versed in practical chemistry than ourself; for the subject is one of great importance

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      The production of Copperas or green vitriol (ferrous sulphate), which was used for a variety of purposes including inks and dyes. An important by-product of the manufacturing process was sulphuric acid. The Copperas was manufactured from pyrites (bisulphide of iron, FeS2) washed out of the London clay cliffs at Walton's Naze onto the shore. There the raw material was collected by "Copperas pickers" - the wives and children of fishermen and other poor people, who were paid in tokens. Some Copperas stones were also dregded up from the sea floor by boats. The material was then taken to a Copperas House (a factory) to be chemically transformed into the green vitriol.

      Copperas Houses were very valuable and most of those in south-east England were controlled by a group of families with strong social links.

      Rights to the raw Copperas found on the shore were usually owned by the local Lord of the Manor from whom the Copperas manufacturers took a lease to enable them to legally collect it.
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      Dictionarium Rusticum, Urbanicum & Botanicum: Or, A Dictionary of Husbandry, Gardening, Trade, Commerce, and all sorts of Country Affairs, in Two Volumes. Volume 1. 3rd edition. London: Printed for James and John Knapton, Arthur Bettesworth, R. Robinson, Jer. Batley, J. Taylor and Thomas Astley, MDCCXXVI. [1726]
      edited by Nathan Bailey, John Worlidge

      Copperas, Green-English; Copperas-Stones, which some call Gold Stones, are found on the seashore, in Essex, Hampshire, and so westward, there being great quantities thereof on the Clifts, but not so good as those on the shore, where the tides ebb and flow over them: They are of a bright shining, silver colour; the next such as are of a rusty deep yellow, and the worst such as have gravel and dirt in 'em, of a sullen umber colour. In order to prepare Copperas beds according as the gound will permit; the beds should be rammed very well, first with strong clay, and then with the rubbish of chalk, whereby the liquor that drains out of the dissolution of the stones, is conveyed into a wooden, hollow trough, laid in the middles of the bed, and voered with a board; being also boarded on all sides, and laid lower at one end than the other, by which means the liquor is conveyed into a cistern under the boiling-house. When the beds are indifferently well dried, the work men lay on the stones about 2 foot thick, which stones will be 5 or 6 years before they yield any considerable quantity of liquor; and before that, the liquor they yield is but weak; they ripen by the sun and rain, yet experiences shews, that watering the stones, though with water prepared by lying in the sun, and poured through very small holes of a watering-pot, retards the work. In time, these stones turn into a kind of vitriolick earth, which will swell and ferment like levened dough.

      When the bed is come to perfection, once in 4 years they refresh it, by laying new stones on the top; and when they make a new bed, they take a good quantity of the old fermented earth, and mingle with new stones, whereby the work is softeend, so that the old earth never becomes useless. The cistern before-mentioned, is made of strong oaken boards, well joined and chalked, and great care is to be taken, that the liquor do not drain through the beds, or out of the cistern: The best way for the prevention thereof, is to divide the cistern in the middle, by oaken boards chalked as before, so as one of them may be mended, in case of a defect: The more rain falls, the more, but the weaker, will be the liquor; the goodness of which is tried by weights proved for that purpose; 14 penny-weight is rich, or an egg being put into the liquor, the higher it swims above it, the stronger it is; within one minute after the egg is put in, the liquor will boil and froth; and in 3 minutes the shell will be quite worn off.

      Out of the aforesaid cistern, the liquor is pumped into a boiler of lead, about 8 foot square, containing near 12 tuns, which is thus ordered; first they lay long pieces of cast iron, 12 inches square, as long as the breadth of the bioler, about 12 inches one from another, and 24 inches above the surface of the fire; then crossways they lay ordinary flat iron bars as close as they can, the sides being made up with brick work. In the middle of the bottom of this boiler is laid a trough of lead, wherein they put at first an 100 pound weight of old iron. The fuel for boiling is Newcastle Coals, and in the boiling by degrees, they put in more iron, amounting in all to 15 pound weight in a boiling, and as the liquor waftes they pump in fresh liquor into the boiling; but that was found too tedious, and the work has been since facilitated, so that the workmen have boiled off 3 boilers of ordinary liquor in a week; which is done, I. by ordering the furnace so, as that the heat is conveyed to all parts of the bottom and sides of the furnace; and instead of pumping cold liquor into the boiler, they supply the waste, whereby the boiler is checked sometimes for 10 hours; by a leaden vessel, called a heater, set at the end of the boiler, and a little higher, supported by bars of iron, as before, and filled with liquor, which by conveyance of heat from the furnace, is kept near boiling hot, and so continually supplies the waste of the boiler, without hindring the boilding. 2. By putting in due proportions of iron from time to time into the boiler; as soon as they perceive the liquor to boil slowly, they put in more iron, which will speedily quicken it; besides, if they do not continually supply the boiling liquor with iron, the Coperas will gather to the bottom of the boiler and melt, and so it will do, if the liquor be not presently drawn off from the boiler into a cooler, as soon as 'tis enough.

      The Cooler is oblong, 20 foot in length, 9 over at the top, 5 deep, tapered towards the bottom, and made of Tarrafs, into which they let the liquor run, so soon as 'its boiled enough. The Copperas herein, will be gathering or working 14 or 15 days, and gathers as much on the sides as in the bottom, about 5 inches thick. Some put bushes into the cooler, about which the Copperas will gather: That which sticks to the sides, and to the bushes, is of a bright green: that in the bottom, of a foul dirty colour. After 14 days, they convey the liquor into another cooler, and reserve it to be boiled afgain with new liquor. The Copperas they shovel on a floor adjoining, so that the liquor may drain from it into another cooler. Copperas may be boiled without iron, but with difficulty; and without it, the boiler will be in danger of melting: However, sometimes in stirring the earth on the beds, they find pieces of Copperas produced, by lying in the Sun.

      Copperas Water, is a medicine used for horses; and the way of making it, is to take 2 quarts of fair water, to put it into a clean pofnet, and thereto half a pound of green Copperas, a handful of salt, a spoonful of ordinary honey, and 2 or 3 branches of rosemary; all which boil, till half the water be consumed, and a little before you take it from the fire, add the quantity of a Dove's egg of allum; that done, take it from the fire, and strain it into a pan, and when 'tis cold, put it into a glass close stopped up, to be reserved for use: When you are to dress any sore, wash it clean with this water, and if the wound be deep, inject it with a syringe: If you think fit, you may boil it in verjuice or chamber-lye, one being a great searcher, cleanser and healer and the other a great dryer.

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      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      32 - Multiple lands and property
      Title Lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/32/14
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/32/14
      Description Harwich; Coppins; Cliff Field; two and half acres of land in Seasalter; messuage, stable, etc, at Harwich, The Street, Whitstable; messuage, kitchen, stable, etc The Street, Seasalter; Wilkins Watts; Keets; Brookefield; Richard Allens; Brookfield and Bedisham; Grandams; Alice Stephens; Gorewell; Stockfish; Binnfield and Upperfield; Cutbeard Strond; Borstall; messuage, Church Street, Whitstable. Between:
      1) Edward Hayard, Anthony Jarvis, William Juce, Henry Winkefield
      2) James Evernden, John Holt, Thomas Whiting, Henry Davis, William Downe, John Wells, Richard Jones, John Iddenden, Andrew Whitfield, Thomas Pott, John Cockman, William Fletcher.
      In a brown envelope with U467/34/4/32/15
      Date 1 Nov 1673


      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      32 - Multiple lands and property
      Title Release
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/32/15
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/32/15
      Description Harwich; Coppins; Cliff Field; two and half acres of land in Seasalter; messuage, stable, etc, at Harwich, The Street, Whitstable; messuage, kitchen, stable, etc The Street, Seasalter; Wilkins Watts; Keets; Brookefield; Richard Allens; Brookfield and Bedisham; Grandams; Alice Stephens; Gorewell; Stockfish; Binnfield and Upperfield; Cutbeard Strond; Borstall; messuage, Church Street, Whitstable. Between:
      1) Edward Hayard, Anthony Jarvis, William Juce, Henry Winkefield: feoffees
      2) James Evernden, John Holt, Thomas Whiting, Henry Davis, William Downe, John Wells, Richard Jones, John Iddenden, Andrew Whitfield, Thomas Pott, John Cockman, William Fletcher.
      In a brown envelope with U467/34/4/32/14
      Date 4 Nov 1673


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      CCA-U467
      A - Whitstable Topography
      B - Whitstable Area
      2 - Conveyances and Land
      4 - Deeds for Whitstable and Swalecliffe
      Title Four pieces of arable and pasture land
      Ref No CCA-U467/A/B/2/4/1
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/A/B/2/4/1
      Description Comprising twenty two acres. Lease. Between James Evernden, John Holt, John Cockman, John Iddenden, Benny Davys, Thomas Whiteing, William Fletcher, Thomas Pott, Richard Jones, William Downe, John Wells; Richard Sackett
      Date 5 May 1679


      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      28 - Wilkins Watts
      Title Counterpart of lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/28/1
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/28/1
      Description Between:
      1) John Andrews, Robert Hooker, James Marsh, Thomas Bass, John Iddenden, Michael Goatham, Thomas Simmons: feoffees or trustees
      2) Matthew Browning
      Date 1751



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      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      3 - Brookfield
      Title Counterpart lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/3/1
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/3/1
      Description Between:
      1) Robert Hooker, Thomas Bass, John Iddenden, Thomas Simmons: feoffees or trustees
      2) Sarah Bass
      Date 1755

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      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      31 - Whitstable - unspecified locations
      Title Counterpart lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/31/7
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/31/7
      Description Between:
      1) Robert Hooker, James Marsh, Thomas Bass, John Iddenden, Thomas Simmons: feoffees or trustees
      2) Michael Kemp
      Three acres of pasture land.
      Date 1755



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      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      22 - Seasalter
      Title Counterpart lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/22/1
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/22/1
      Description Between:
      1) Robert Hooker, Thomas Bass, John Iddenden, Thomas Simmons: feoffees or trustee
      2) James Mordey
      Date 1757

      First Previous18 of 45Last Next
      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      22 - Seasalter
      Title Counterpart lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/22/1
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/22/1
      Description Between:
      1) Robert Hooker, Thomas Bass, John Iddenden, Thomas Simmons: feoffees or trustee
      2) James Mordey
      Date 1757


      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      32 - Multiple lands and property
      Title Counterpart lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/32/22
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/32/22
      Description Three pieces of land, arable and pasture, comprising twelve acres, in Whitstable. Between:
      1) Robert Hooker, Thomas Bass, John Iddenden, Thomas Simmons: feoffees or trustees
      2) William Lipyeatt
      Annotated 'Bennyham and Richard Alleyns'
      Date 1757


      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      8 - Coppins
      Title Lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/8/1
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/8/1
      Description Between:
      1) Robert Hooker, Thomas Bass, John Iddenden, Thomas Simmons: feoffees or trustees
      2) Mary Hockles
      Date 1760


      CCA-U467
      K - Local organisations
      34 - Whitstable Charities
      4 - Property - Title Deeds
      32 - Multiple lands and property
      Title Lease
      Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/32/23
      Alt Ref No CCA-U467/K/34/4/32/23
      Description Harwich; Coppins; Cliffe Field; Gadberries; messuage, stable, etc The Street, Whitstable; messuage, kitchen, stable, etc The Street, Seasalter; Culvers; Petticroft; Stockfish; Swnifield also known as Bynnfield and Upperfield; Granhams also known as Grandams; Wilkins Watts; Alice Stephens; Keets; Richard Ayllen; Brookefield and Bedisham; Brookfield; Gorwell; the Clerk's House; Bushy Close. Between:
      1) Thomas Bass, John Iddenden: Feoffees in Trust
      2) Joshua Dyason, Richard Broadstreet, Sacar Holt, Isaac Dyason, William Ratlief, Henry Hunt, Thomas Humpharys, Robert Knock, John Foreman, Richard Willard, John Goldfinch, William Hyat
      In an envelope with U467/K/34/4/32/24 titled 'Conveyance in Trust 24 April 1761'
      Date 23 Apr 1761

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      CCA-DCb
      J - Judicial (Church Courts)
      J
      39 - Ecclesiastical cause papers
      Title Ecclesiastical cause papers
      Ref No CCA-DCb/J/J/39/22
      Alt Ref No CCA-DCb/J/J/39/22
      AccessConditions **Collection due to relocate: Please contact us about access**
      Description Pl: Mary PORTER; Def.: Rich IDDENDEN als ELLENDEN Whitstable; Documents: Ans
      Date 5 Apr 1627


      CCA-DCb
      PRC - PROBATE / COURT RECORDS
      18 - Archdeaconry court: miscellaneous records
      39 - Papers in causes
      Title Archdeaconry Court Miscellaneous
      Ref No CCA-DCb/PRC/18/39/8
      Alt Ref No CCA-DCb/PRC/18/39/8
      AccessConditions **Collections due to relocate: Please contact us about access**
      Description Plaintiff: Jos ALLEN Whitstable; CAL Sybil IDDENDEN, dau; Defendant: Alice IDDENDEN als ABBOTT form rel, exix; Document: Lib; Case: Testm (Jn IDDENDEN, Whitstable)
      Date 20 Apr 1692
      Related Material See also: DCb/PRC/18/39/16

  • Sources 
    1. [S78] Will, Archdeaconry Court of Canterbury, Archdeaconry Court of Canterbury, Canterbury Cathedral Archives, (U.S.A., Salt Lake City: Genealogical Society of Utah), PRC/17/75/278 PRC/16/306 IJ/4 1681, 11 Jun 1681.
      IN THE NAME OF GOD, AMEN, the fifth day of May one thousand six hundred and eight one according to the computation of the Church of England, I, JOHN IDDENDEN, of the parish of Whitstable, in the County of Kent, Copperris boyler, being of perfect memory and remembrance praised be God do make and ordain this my last Will and Testament in manner and form following, vizt.

      First, I bequeath my soul into the hands of Almighty God my maker hoping that through the meritorious death and passion of Jesus Christ my only Saviour and Redeemer to receive free pardon and forgiveness of all my sins and as for my body to be buried in Christian burial at the discretion of my Executrix hereafter nominated.

      Item, I give and bequeath unto my son JOHN IDDENDEN one and twenty pounds.

      Item I give and bequeath unto my son ELIAS IDDENDEN fifteen pounds.

      Item, I give and bequeath unto my daughter SUSANNE IDDENDEN thirty pounds and my will and meaning is that I give my part of my boat to my son ELIAS IDDENDEN.

      Item, I give and bequeath unto my daughter MARY WELLS sixteen pounds

      Item, I give and bequeath unto my daughter JANE PRESTON thirty shillings.

      Item, I give and bequeath unto my daughter SIBELL IDDENDEN the sum of fifty pounds and my will is my Executrix should bring her up and all the legacies before given my Will is should be paid in one year after my decease.

      Item, all the rest of my goods and chattels whatsoever I give unto ALICE IDDENDEN my wife forever upon condition that she pay all my debts and legacies and make her sole Executrix of this my last Will and Testament revoking all other Wills and Testaments.

      In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal the day and year above written.

      John Iddenden by my mark

      SEALED AND DELIVERED in the presence of and the
      interline allowed of ELIZABETH HOOKER by her mark
      Thomas Willard

      Exaiahir

      PROBATUM fuit testamentum humoi suprascriptum JOHIS IDDENDEN nuper de Whitstable Arch Cant defci undecimo die Junii Anno Domini 1681 coram venli viro Johann Bale clico in med dcore Surrto etc. venlis viri THOMA BOUCJHIER Legum dcor Revdi viri dmi Archini Cant Offilis ltime deputat juramento ALICIAE IDDENDEN relcae dict defuncti et Executricis unicae ub eidem testamto nominat etc ac inde approbatum etc ocunsq etc dict Executrici commissum fuit etest prius ad sca sacra sta dei Evangelia in debita juris forma jurat etc salvo inre cuiuscumq interee haben

    2. [S34] Parish Register, England, Kent: Church of England, Canterbury Cathedral Archives, (U.S.A., Salt Lake City: Genealogical Society of Utah), Whitstable, Kent, England, 11 May 1681.
      John Idenden householder buried

    3. [S98] Marriage Licences, Archdeaconry of Canterbury, Joseph Meadows Cowper and Arthur J. Willis, (England, Canterbury: Cross and Jackman, 1892-1898, c1967-1971), Fourth Series, col. 313, 21 May 1680.
      Iddenden, John, of Whitstable, copperas-man, widower and Alice Jarman, of the same place, maiden, 28. At same. May 21, 1680.